Garret Schuelke (gary_the_great) wrote in a_versus_l,
Garret Schuelke
gary_the_great
a_versus_l

Welcome Post

Yo everyone,

Welcome the Anarchists versus Libertarianism community. I am you host, Gary The Great.

If you wanna introduce yourself, feel free to do it here and now.

Otherwise, let the fun begin.
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Libertarians aren't trying hard enough.
Hmmm.

And here I was thinking we were heck of a lot closer to liberty than anarchy.
Liberty and government cannot coexist.
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seconded.

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"Enable anonymous posting please."

Did it.

st_reinnovate

9 years ago

Do you mean the paleoconservative (troglo-conservative?) "taxation is theft" sort of anarchist or the even angrier downmarket-Marxist "property is theft" type?

It makes a big difference: the latter likes to dream up cleverly oppressive ways to remake Man as he thinks he ought to be, whereas the former likes to pretend that contracts are magical and that there's such a thing as pre-institutional property rights.

Arguing with both is boring, and it's a bit like spitting on a fish.
I for one am glad this community exists. Anarchists need to reclaim the term and libertarians can go lick the boots of ron paul or whatever idiot they've got running for president.Meaning that anyone who seeks liberation by proxy is no one I can take seriously.
Any anarchist who doesn't take steps to create the social institutions that would replace government, who claims that there can and ought be a whithering away of the state but expects it to happen on its own or through strictly negative efforts, is no one I can take seriously.

No libertarian worthy of the name simultaneously knows what Ron Paul supports and supports Ron Paul. I don't expect you to know that, as left-anarchists are usually more young-and-angry than rational, educated, or in command of the issues.
Im actually in my mid twenties, have a BA in Sociology and English and regularly take steps to rebuild society in my community: I am active in my local food co-op including facilitating a food delivery service via bicycle for the cafe, I staff and am one of the main facilitators of our local community space which includes an infoshop, art gallery, printmaking collective, a multitude of workshops and meeting groups and is staffed 7 days a week and (gasp) even pays rent monthly. Additionally I work on urban sustainability projects like gardens, free food, commons reclamation, anti-racist action, am a dues paying member of the industrial workers of the world and in general work as hard as I can to ensure that anarchy is taken seriously. Before condemning me as "young and angry" perhaps ask why I've such a vitriolic view towards libertarians.

I speak of the Ron Paul support because he has garnered a wide range of of supporters from across the political spectrum and I am disgusted by the fact that so-called anarchists are openly supporting him. No one who votes can really be called an anarchist.

Feel free to enlighten me on what a "true" libertarian would support then.

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If I may ask...

What is the purpose of thy community?
to waste time and fire people up.
maybe so we will gain a better grasp of each others positions before we tear each other to bits in a never ending flame war?
That is exactly what I thought this was going to turn into. Yay for argument culture! ::rolleyes::